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Old 3rd May 2000, 00:28
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The founder of this family was Walter, son of Gilbert de Hameldone, to whom Bruce gave the Barony of Cadzow in Lanarkshire, celebrated as the home of the old white Caledonian cattle. Sir James the Hamilton, Lord of Cadzow under James II, was in 1445 created Lord Hamilton. By his wife, Princess Mary, sister of James III, he had James, 2nd Earl, the Regent Arran of Mary Queen of Scots' childhood, founded Hamilton Palace, and was declared by Parliament after here next heir to the throne. His son John became Marquis of Hamilton 1599, and James, 3rd Marquis, became Duke of Hamilton 1643. William, 2nd Duke, died in defense of Charles II at Worcester, 1651. His daughter, Anne, became Duchess of Hamilton. Her son James, 4th Duke, patriotically opposed the Union 1707, and was shortly after killed by an English peer, Lord Mohun. William, 12th Duke, was in 1864 confirmed by Napoleon III in the French duchy of Chatelherault. Alfred, 13th Duke, after the demolition of Hamilton Palace, removed the seat of the chiefs to Dungavel in their Lordship of Avon. The Duke of Hamilton is Chief of the family, and Hereditary Keeper of the Palace of Holyroodhouse.
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William De Haya, who flourished about 1170, is said to have been the father of two sons, of whom the younger, Robert, was ancestor of the Marquises of Tweeddale. from the elder son, William, came the house of Erroll, and his descendant, Sir William Hay, was created Earl of Errol in 1453. The Hays of Erroll hold the office of Hereditary Constable of Scotland, this title having been conferred in 1314 by King Robert the Bruce on the grandfather of the 1st Earl. The 4th Earl fell at Floden in 1513, and the 13th Earl, dying unmarried in 1717, was succeeded by his sister as Countess of Erroll. But on her death in 1758, without issue, the title went to James Boyd, son and heir of the 4th (and attainted) Earl of Kilmarnock, by his wife, Ann Livingstone, who was the daughter and heiress of the Earl of Linlithgow and Callander, and his wife, Margaredt Hay, sister of the above mentioned Countess of Erroll. On succeeding to the title James Bloyd changed his name to hay, in accordance with clan law; and his descendants succeeding to the Earldom have been continual Chiefs of the Clan Hay.


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Post Am I a Chisholm?

I am of known Scottish descent my grandfather's name is Aird would that mean that I am related to the Chisholms Clan?
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The Chisholms are of Lowland origin, but they are virtually Gaelic by descent, and ancestor having married Margaret, the Celtic heiress of Erchless in the Aird. Their Lament is "Cumha do dh'-Ulleam Siseal" ("Lament for William Chisholm"), and their badge, the Fern. Their ancient stronghold was Erchless Castle in Strathglass, which their descendants still own. A Robert Chisholm, knight, is mentioned in 1469, and a Thomas of Chisholm in 1403. Three of the clan were Bishops of Dunblane in the fifteenth and sixteenth centuries. James Chisholm was Master of the Household to James VI. Mention is made of Alexander Chisholm of Strathglass in 1578, and of John Chisholm of Comer in 1613. In 1608 Lord Balmerino, the Scottish Secretary of State, was taken to task in England for having written to Pope Clement VIII "to obtain a Cardinal's Hat for Chisholm, a Scots man, brother to the Laird of Croneriggs in Perthshire."

The Chief of the Chisholms is called in Gaelic "An Siosalach." The arms of the Chiefs were in 1887 and 1938 confirmed to the heir of line of the baronial house of Comer and Erchless as "Chisholm of Chisholm."
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15r no one has posted in this thread for 12 years and celto hasnt posted in 10 years.

hope you find an answer anyway
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