RE: Intimidatin' Lindsay Clan...

...Envy you bairnies with th' hearty and manly clan badges...th' Lindsay badge portrays a swan surrounded by th' herald, "Endure Fort"--or "endure with strength"--
ooohhh...scary! Doesn't sound very pro-active!

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celticjack
Ar do slainte!

CelticJack you are tooooooo FUNNY!
http://www.tartans.com/clans/Lindsay/g/badge2.gif

...besides that Swan looks rather cross to me....

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Di (aka ^..^ ~ Willy)

Ooooo, Jack! Endurance and Strength, aye? (*smile*) - Diane

[This message has been edited by dclor (edited 30 November 1999).]

Couldn't resist, WHAT A BRAGGART!! <just kidding>

Ok...call us th' "Mad Swans," then...now THAT'S scary!

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celticjack
Ar do slainte!

Have you hever seen an angry swan? Those things can be viscious too. Snatch of lindsay trivia. there is a song called the Lammas Tide written about the Black Douglass riding into the north of England to raid during the wars of independence, one line lists his companions. From memory.

"he took the Gordons, and the Grahams / the Lindsays blyth and gay / but the Jardines were not wi' him richt / and they rue it to this day."

Of course, in this case gay means lighthearted and cheerful, but given the ferocious nature of these raids I think we can take it as read that if the Black Douglas saw fit to have the Lindsays with him, they were no pushover. The Douglas was a bit of a psycho actually.

Annother extract for you showing the fiercness of the Lindsays.

"The moon was clear, the day drew near,
The spears in flinders flew,
But mony a gallant Englishman
Ere day the Scotsman slew.

The Gordons good, in English blood
They steep'd their hose and shoon;
The Lindsays flew like fire about
Till all the fray was done."

The full version of the "Ballad of Otterburn" can be fount at http://www.geocities.com/~cmsi/otter.htm

the story goes something like this:
In the early 1300s Lord James Douglas led an army of some 3-400 men at arms plus assorted archers and pikemen, in to England on a raid, partly as a counter to a proposed English invasion via Berwick.

At Newcastle, Douglas took the pendant of Lord Henry Percy, I think by killing him in combat. Hotspur, his son I think, said he'd get it back and challanged the Douglas to meet him in three days at Otterburn. the Douglas decided to meet the challange.

Hotspur arrived early and fell upon the Scots by night, the Douglas rallied and hacked his way through the English forces but was overpowered and slain, the Scots rallied to protect his body and his son (?) or nephew Montgomery took command. The English were defeated soundly and Hotspur captured.

The version of the song I'm familiar with is known as "The Lammas Tide" and performed by the Corries. It is the first 8 stanzas of the ballad, and then the first two repeated.

Enjoy.



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