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Old 14th December 2004, 02:41
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I am just curious about the Dalrymple's that are in Scotland. I have my American ancestry to about 1750 (All in America).I kinda wanted to Jump The Ocean and talk to some Dalrymple's that are still in Scotland. I am curious about the type of people that my ancestors were in Scotland.
Some people that I have talked to in the U.S. says their is a Dalrymple Castle,a Dalrymple Scotch Whiskey and one person said their was a road or a street named Dalrymple.I dont know if any of this is true.
Any way, finding some Native Scots would be a pleasure to talk to.
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Old 14th December 2004, 09:25
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Hello, I'm a native Scot - but my name is not Dalrymple!

The name Dalrymple is infamous in Scottish history because the Master of Stairs (Dalrymple) was a central character in the events which became known as the Massacre of Glencoe. However, we do not hold that against any Dalrymple today

Here's some information taken from a site called Gathering of the Clans. I cannot vouch for how accurate the information may be, you would have to find corroborating evidence from somewhere else. It is interesting to note that this information does not mention the Master of Stair/Glencoe incident.

BTW - Scottish whisky does not have an 'e'... that's Irish whiskEy or American bourbon style whiskey....

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Crest: A rock proper

Motto: Firm

Tartan: Dalrymple of Castleton

Arms: Quarterly, 1st, Or, on a slatire Azure nine lozenges of the Firls (Daltymple); 2nd, Or, a chevron checky Sable and Argent between three water bogets of the Second (Ross); 3rd grand quarter, counterquartered; (1) & (IV), Quarterly, 1st & 4th, Gules, three cinqufoils Ermine; 2nd & 3rd, Argent, a galley, sails furles, Sable; the whole within a bordure compony Argent and Azure, the first charges with hearts Gules, the second with mullets Argent (Hamilton); (II) & (III), Gules, on a fess between three crescents Or as many mullets Azure (De Franqutot); 4th grand quarter, counterquartered; (i) & (IV), Gules on a chevron between three cinquefoils Argent, as many rounded buckles Azure (Hamilton); (II) & (III), Gules three martlets Argent (Makgill)

The Dalrymples take their name from the land. How the name came about, has several different opinions. Some think it comes from "kal-a-chrumpuill" which is Gaelic for "dale of the crooked pool", another opinion is that it came from "dal-yr-mole" which is "valley of the slaughter of kings", but the most likley is that it come from the Saxon "dahl hrympel".

The first record of someone having the Dalrymple name was in May 1371 from a charter of Robert II. Three generations of Dalyrymples are mentioned in this charter.

William de Dalrymple acquired the lands of Stair-Montgomery in Ayreshire in 1540 because of his marriage to Agnes Kennedy. She was the granddaughter of Malcolm de Carrick de Stair. This made him the first Dalrymple of Stair.

James Dalrymple of Stair was one of the most well known lawyers and statesman of his time and eventually became Viscount Stair. At the Restoration, Charles II knighed him and made him one of the Lords of Session. He later resigned and moved to the Netherlands but returned later then died in 1695.

The present Earl is captain general of the Royal Company of Archers and Gold Stick-in-Waiting to the Queen.


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Old 16th December 2004, 02:02
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Hello, I'm a native Scot - but my name is not Dalrymple!

The name Dalrymple is infamous in Scottish history because the Master of Stairs (Dalrymple) was a central character in the events which became known as the Massacre of Glencoe. However, we do not hold that against any Dalrymple today

Here's some information taken from a site called Gathering of the Clans. I cannot vouch for how accurate the information may be, you would have to find corroborating evidence from somewhere else. It is interesting to note that this information does not mention the Master of Stair/Glencoe incident.

BTW - Scottish whisky does not have an 'e'... that's Irish whiskEy or American bourbon style whiskey....

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Crest: A rock proper

Motto: Firm

Tartan: Dalrymple of Castleton

Arms: Quarterly, 1st, Or, on a slatire Azure nine lozenges of the Firls (Daltymple); 2nd, Or, a chevron checky Sable and Argent between three water bogets of the Second (Ross); 3rd grand quarter, counterquartered; (1) & (IV), Quarterly, 1st & 4th, Gules, three cinqufoils Ermine; 2nd & 3rd, Argent, a galley, sails furles, Sable; the whole within a bordure compony Argent and Azure, the first charges with hearts Gules, the second with mullets Argent (Hamilton); (II) & (III), Gules, on a fess between three crescents Or as many mullets Azure (De Franqutot); 4th grand quarter, counterquartered; (i) & (IV), Gules on a chevron between three cinquefoils Argent, as many rounded buckles Azure (Hamilton); (II) & (III), Gules three martlets Argent (Makgill)

The Dalrymples take their name from the land. How the name came about, has several different opinions. Some think it comes from "kal-a-chrumpuill" which is Gaelic for "dale of the crooked pool", another opinion is that it came from "dal-yr-mole" which is "valley of the slaughter of kings", but the most likley is that it come from the Saxon "dahl hrympel".

The first record of someone having the Dalrymple name was in May 1371 from a charter of Robert II. Three generations of Dalyrymples are mentioned in this charter.

William de Dalrymple acquired the lands of Stair-Montgomery in Ayreshire in 1540 because of his marriage to Agnes Kennedy. She was the granddaughter of Malcolm de Carrick de Stair. This made him the first Dalrymple of Stair.

James Dalrymple of Stair was one of the most well known lawyers and statesman of his time and eventually became Viscount Stair. At the Restoration, Charles II knighed him and made him one of the Lords of Session. He later resigned and moved to the Netherlands but returned later then died in 1695.

The present Earl is captain general of the Royal Company of Archers and Gold Stick-in-Waiting to the Queen.


Thank You for your response. I will check out this "massacre" and see what it was all about.
As far as whisky goes,well, I am not really a drinker, except for an occasional nip at family gatherings. Thank You for correcting me on the whiskEy thing.
God Bless and Merry Christmas.
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Old 16th December 2004, 08:45
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The Massacre of Glencoe is known to every Scot - probably because it was an example of breaking the rules of doing no harm to those from whom you have accepted hospitality.

The MacDonalds of Glencoe were killed as they slept. The order was signed (on behalf of the King) by the Master of Stairs.
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Old 16th December 2004, 19:25
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The Massacre of Glencoe is known to every Scot - probably because it was an example of breaking the rules of doing no harm to those from whom you have accepted hospitality.

The MacDonalds of Glencoe were killed as they slept. The order was signed (on behalf of the King) by the Master of Stairs.
It looks like this particular Dalrymple was very loyal to the king. He was a sorry guy to have pushed this massacre.

I would have rather have read about him defying the king by somehow not endorsing this massacre. But that is history now and is interesting to read about.
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