Clan MacDonald

[SherbrookeJacobite]

Originally posted by Morris
Excuse me, but I wish to know about my clan heritage Morrison.So if you have any information about my clan please inform me.I would think that maybe a Macdonald would probibly know something considering they were friends with the Morrison clan in the past according to the information I have already recieved.

I think the Morrisons were more closely connected with the MacLeods, although there were certainly lots of MacDonalds living on the same Hebridean Islands as the MacLeods and Morrisons.

As a starting place I would begin here:

http://www.clanmorrison.net/

I'm sure there are people connected with that site who would only be too happy to help.

I know your Clan has a very proud heritage - good luck in your search!

Slainte

[Raingeanach]

Originally posted by only_1_Highlander
dose anyone out there know where in Scotland the MacDonald came from when they came over to Canada on the ship HECTOR. I;m not to sure if my clan is from Glencoe so plese help me if you have any idea It will help thank you so please email me or post it..

The most common Glencoe names on headstones on the ancient burial Isle of St. Munda are MacDonald, MacInnes and Rankin (MacRaing).

www.glencoe-heritage-trust.com/

Many of the queries about clans come from North America. A book entitled "Glencoe and the Indians" by James Hunter should help bridge our original cultures.

http://www.electricscotland.com/hist...an_indians.htm

[Raingeanach]

North American clan descendants and others should be aware that some MacDonalds were simply sons and daughters of men called Donald. Others were "encouraged" to adopt the name of the chief as explained by George Fraser Black. Others were incoming folk to the district. The rest were descendants of successive chiefs.

Folk now called Cameron, for instance, probably accepted bribes from one or more Cameron chiefs, descendants of a Flemish interloper!

www.amg1.net/scotland/flemfam.htm

[SherbrookeJacobite]

Originally posted by Raingeanach
North American clan descendants and others should be aware that some MacDonalds were simply sons and daughters of men called Donald. Others were "encouraged" to adopt the name of the chief as explained by George Fraser Black. Others were incoming folk to the district. The rest were descendants of successive chiefs.

Folk now called Cameron, for instance, probably accepted bribes from one or more Cameron chiefs, descendants of a Flemish interloper!

www.amg1.net/scotland/flemfam.htm

I see now why some have referred to you in the english as "Overreacher". You are very quick to quote a single source,and present it as fact, coloured with your own biases. It is a fact that most Clans adopted the family name of their Chief. That does not change the fact that the name belonged to all Clan members who should bear it with pride. As for your "theory" about Cameron origins - It is just one of a number of theories. The modern Clan Cameron is made up of several families, including; MacMartin, MacGillonie, MacSorley, and Cameron of Lochiel and Erracht.

It is clear that Surnames/Clan names were in common use as early as the 13th Century despite George Fraser Blacks assertions.

My own family were MacMartins, whom I have traced back to the 1500's in Letterfinlay.

Foe anyone interested in how the Camerons rose to prominance in Lochaber, here is a quote from the excellent book "The Camerons" by John Stewart.

Some time towards the end of the 14th century a chief or leader called Donald Dubh, whose surname was Cameron, arose in Lochaber. He must have been a man of importance, ability, and energy, for he had a large following composed of local tribes. Donald Dubh was the first "authentic" chief or captain of this confederation of tribes which gradually became known as the Clan Cameron, taking the name of their captain as the generic name of the whole, until the clan was first officially recognized by that name in a charter of 1472. From Donald Dubh all the later chiefs derived their Gaelic patronymic, MacDhomhnuill Duibh (the son of a dark haired or swarthy Donald) by which name the present chief is known in Gaeldom.

During the 13th and 14th centuries, the most important tribes in Lochaber were the Clan Donald, the Clan Chattan, and the Mael-anfhaidh. The Mael-anfhaidh consisted of three main tribes; the MacMartins of Letterfinlay; the Macgillonies (Mac ghille-anfhaidh); and the MacSorlies of Glennevis (Sliochd Shoirle Ruaidh). The MacMartins are said to have provided the chief of this confederation of tribes. Donald Dubh Cameron, already mentioned, married the MacMartin daughter (said to be the daughter of the MacMartin chief) and either through this or by his own prowess assumed the leadership or captaincy of the confederation of clans which later formed the Clan Cameron.

[SherbrookeJacobite]

Originally posted by Raingeanach

The most common Glencoe names on headstones on the ancient burial Isle of St. Munda are MacDonald, MacInnes and Rankin (MacRaing).

www.glencoe-heritage-trust.com/

Many of the queries about clans come from North America. A book entitled "Glencoe and the Indians" by James Hunter should help bridge our original cultures.

http://www.electricscotland.com/hist...an_indians.htm

James Hunter also wrote another excellent book that talks about the bridging of the two cultures. "A Dance Called America" would help many in North America perhaps understand how they came to be where they are.

I visited the Battlefields of Culloden and the Little Big Horn only weeks apart in the summer of 1999. I was dramatically struck by the similarities between the struggles of the Highlanders and the Native Americans. The politics of the situations were of course dramatically different - but the clash of cultures, and the attitude of the "advanced" culture toward the other had similarities.

The treatment of Acadian French in what are now Canada's Maritime Provinces at the hands of the English also parallels the treatment of the Highlanders (Jacobite or not) post Culloden.

[Raingeanach]

[quote]Originally posted by Raingeanach
[b]
Folk now called Cameron, for instance, probably accepted bribes from one or more Cameron chiefs, descendants of a Flemish interloper!


Sorry! That sentence should read: An ancestor of folk now called Cameron...

Here is a website about a Glencoe bard which may be of interest to North Americans. But, he may not have served with the 93rd (Sutherland) Highlanders.

http://home.bak.rr.com/rmunro/transl...ie%20poems.htm

[SherbrookeJacobite]

[quote]Originally posted by Raingeanach

Originally posted by Raingeanach
[b]
Folk now called Cameron, for instance, probably accepted bribes from one or more Cameron chiefs, descendants of a Flemish interloper!


Sorry! That sentence should read: An ancestor of folk now called Cameron...

Here is a website about a Glencoe bard which may be of interest to North Americans. But, he may not have served with the 93rd (Sutherland) Highlanders.

http://home.bak.rr.com/rmunro/transl...ie%20poems.htm

I assumed that you meant Cameron ancestors. I was familiar with "the Mist Covered Mountains of Home" - its words ring true for all of us who find ourselves far from the land of our origins. I didn't realize who the author was. As I had Cameron kin who lived at Kinlochleven he could possibly have been a distant relative (or not -there were lots of Camerons in the area around Ballachulish.