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Old 29th July 2004, 12:53
Marti33 Marti33 is offline
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Talking is it just me

or is this quite confusing.

this normandebrus keeps telling polwarth to keep on topic, I thought she was, i've got a sore heid noo.
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Old 29th July 2004, 12:55
Polwarth Polwarth is offline
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Aye, but that's cos you're a Scot anaw, Marti

Diz it no do yer heid in?
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Old 29th July 2004, 16:25
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Can I get my twopence worth in as well
My wee bookie says,
Their roots were Norman. their ancestor was ALAIN, seneschal of Dol and they settled in Scotland during the reign of David 1st(1124 to 1153). The clan takes its name from the hereditary post of High Steward (as Pol said) which the family held from the 12th century.

More info if wanted from my bigger bookie.

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Old 29th July 2004, 16:28
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Re: Dear Polwarth - Stewart.Bruce.Aramaic connections

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Originally posted by normandebrus
You said you WEREN'T INTERESTED in going back further than the 1600's. What are you avoiding? Is your resistance to the story of Aramaic descent based on anything you studied or are you being, as it sounds, motivated by something more emotional?

I HOPE you are a Scot but I suppose there are plenty of people that post as IF THEY ARE in order to add weight to their arguments. Is that what you are supposing I am doing? Will you stick with the subject matter and to research? Will you tell me what you base your opinion on that there is no possibility of an Aramaic connection or will you, as you immediately did, make an implication that there is a reason to doubt me other than the merits of my statements (like implying that I might not be Scottish). That reaks of a mechanism of denial wherein you attack the messenger without critically appraising the actual message and I hope anyone interested in objective research can see where this leads.

To answer your question, sir, my family is directly descended from the very first Stewart emmigrants to the United States and the esoteric traditions have been preserved with severe precision.

Now, shall we stick with the topic at hand?

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Oh dear. If we're going to drift off topic (yes, you...) into bizarre religious theories about the lost tribe of Israel, take it over to the appropriate forum and play there. Suffice to say that apart from a deluded few, no-one here in Scotland subscribes to this particular theory. We're quite content just to be Scots.
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Old 29th July 2004, 18:12
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Re: Dear Polwarth...blah...blah

Polwarth writes:

I'm not AVOIDING anything. And,I have kept to the topic in hand.

By the way quote from your last post
".... and the esoteric traditions have been preserved with severe precision." What, precisely, does that mean...? You still live in a house with a mud floor,share your home with livestock, eat porridge every day... that sort of thing?

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normandebrus responds:

The pursuits you mention are not esoteric pursuits.

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Polwarth writes:

Don't you realise that the 'real' Scots on here are laughing at you?

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normandebrus responds:

Since laughing does not qualify as a rebuttal and since it is critical appraisal I am interested in entertaining, none of it has any bearing on my demeanor nor on any serious research (no scientist or historian or what have you has ever included the laughing of nearby 'peers' as evidence of anything). I asked you to stick to the topic and if you had information to the contrary of my assertions to provide it. You have, again, not done that but attempted to ridicule instead. Your sense of superiority is obvious as is your obvious avoidance of PROVIDING RESEARCH TO THE CONTRARY. I am still waiting. Still. Typical.

In virtually the same breath that you assert you are avoiding nothing, you avoid much.

It does not matter what I think nor, in my opinion, what you think. The readers are drawing their own conclusions. They see.

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Polwarth writes:

BTW - I'm female, so your use of the term 'sir' is incorrect.

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normandebrus responds:

You have focused on several things but not on providing research to support your views on something you have already admitted to not having been interested in.

You respond with emotion but not with credibility.

I welcome critical appraisals of my sense of history but you have provided none of that. If anyone would like to provide such, I am interested but I am not interested in bantering for the sake of bantering.

Toodles.

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Old 30th July 2004, 14:17
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Perhaps you are unaware of one of our favourite remarks to idiots like you....

Awa an bile yer heid.
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Old 31st July 2004, 03:46
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Dear aNonnyMoose

I would be perfectly 'content' to hear research contradicting this theory. I have been explicity asking to see such for years online and for years, with sickening regularity, I get attacked instead. Please, someone, prove it wrong.

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