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Originally posted by kathyv

One such 'punch' in the evolution theory are polystrat fossils. These are a fact, have been found all over the world and point to a catastrophic flood event. . .


Actually it's polystrate fossils and again you've proved my point- you have churned out a creationist red herring that you have obviously got from one of their websites without realising that it is a complete falsehood and deals specifically with geology rather than evolution. They are caused by rapid sedimentation in the floodplains of rivers etc. and provide no problems whatsoever for evolution.



Another punch are the many evolutionists who have publicly stated that evolution is in itself a theory, not a fact, and can't be completely scientifically supported. Including the man himself, Charles Darwin.


There are no mathematical facts in science but there are phenomena supported by such a weight of evidence that it would be perverse to dispute they were facts. Speciation of insects is observed in laboratories so that can only be termed the fact of evolution. Only the biological mechanisms involved are theoretical so natural selection- Darwinism - is a theory but the fact that species evolve through time is an indisputable fact.



I think a lot of the evolutionary sciences look at an adaptation and label it evolving.

Evolution is only defined as change at the genetic level of any species through time so in fact it is creationists who try and define evolution as only being adaptation.


Something that I find odd, and a punch in the creationists side are the eohippus questions. There are several reasons, according to creationists, why the eohippus can't point to evolution into the horse and one of their reasonings are the numbers of ribs found in several fossils varies, this is taken by creationists as proof of non evolution. However, modern horse has a breed with different numbers of ribs, the Arabian has 1 set of ribs fewer than other horse breeds so I do question the reasoning of creationists using that as support.

Another creationist favourite- possibly from answersingenesis? And yet another completely flawed argument. The fossil record of horses shows that it branched off into various lineages which in turn split into a variety of different species. Biology doesn't say that evolution has to be a consistent progression but the fossil evidence shows all stages of development and doesn't cause any problems for evolution.


I question it all, because I wish to continue learning but I don't let it disrupt my life. I also don't insist that anyone look at my views as fact.

But that is exactly my point. Evolution of species is a fact. It does occur and isn't in question and your responses prove my argument. You, like many other people, obviously felt they were valid objections because you saw them on some creationist website presented as if they were credible arguments when in reality they have no validity or relevance whatsoever. That is why creationists must be challenged- they are preventing people from learning scientific facts and not only that but the culture that actually encourages evangelicals to spread their lies and propaganda has to be questioned.